needing a new MT clutch procedure

its going to take time to properly vette these local places (i have 4 in cue) from prior experiences with various slop shops not doing job right the first time :mad:
the proper place for this procedure is likely outside of Chicago... but he has at least a 2 month backlog on maintenance on old rusty Toyotas
except when i last spoke with him regarding a new clutch he does not have equipment to resurface flywheel as needed and just recommends putting a brand new (very pricey part) one in there
 
Replacement of such parts is common practice.

This comes due to the price and labor from a machine shop. Very few mechanics have the skills or equipment to surface a flywheel.

The work is usually done on a large grinder. Its not really an operation for a lathe.

Disc brake rotors have the same situation.


Remember, the longer you milk the worn out clutch the greater chance of severe damage to the flywheel. It may already be too late for a resurface. Prepare yourself for a significant repair invoice.
 
tacojoel said:
Maybe 2 problems. Could be a throwout bearing, or related.
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which problem are you referring to? I found the pressure plate has some sort of springs that could be an issue or not? with the floating sensation in the lower gears

apparently some shop will NOT resurface a flywheel
got an estimate from local indie yota shop that i THOT did resurfacing if it was resurfaceable
now they told me they just put a new flywheel in there
LOL :(

the deets on what EXACTLY they do with it dismantled in the 9 hours leaves much to be desired
 
The pict-o-gram assembly is hilarious. The only mention of alignment is "Avoid Misalignment"........ not a clue on How to Align.
Suggest this not a typical DIY task.

Good Luck


BTW, you can always ASK the shop for the deets. If they are not willing to detail process, then find another shop.
 
Rock62 said:
The pict-o-gram assembly is hilarious. The only mention of alignment is "Avoid Misalignment"........ not a clue on How to Align.
Suggest this not a typical DIY task.

Good Luck


BTW, you can always ASK the shop for the deets. If they are not willing to detail process, then find another shop.
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this shop ONLY does Yota and Lexus
only other shop that does this local is the Yota dealer service shop

i asked if they inspect the transmission parts while its dismantled in case some things need replaced whilst its apart
and they said NO they will not look at transmission parts for wear
 
JayQQ97 said:
this shop ONLY does Yota and Lexus
only other shop that does this local is the Yota dealer service shop

i asked if they inspect the transmission parts while its dismantled in case some things need replaced whilst its apart
and they said NO they will not look at transmission parts for wear
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Not surprised. Trannys are complex beasts. Yes, even the MT is complex.

From a shop view, it is time and $$ efficient to just put a rebuilt tranny in.

The issue you describe is likely limited to the flywheel, diaphragm spring, throw out bearing and clutch plate. But this is just a guess on my part. Best to have a shop check.
 
And it could just be the driveshaft and or joints doing the new vibes
Lol

Why would you need to get a reman transmission if it's just an input output shaft bearing??
 
Rock62 said:
Not surprised. Trannys are complex beasts. Yes, even the MT is complex.

From a shop view, it is time and $$ efficient to just put a rebuilt tranny in.

The issue you describe is likely limited to the flywheel, diaphragm spring, throw out bearing and clutch plate. But this is just a guess on my part. Best to have a shop check.
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They did ask me if it was slipping out of gear or revving high going nowhere
And I confidently said NO. Not yet
 
Transmission should NOT be a complex for a ASE certified master seasoned Toyota expert
 
When a technician at Certified Transmission has a customer indicate that vibration is experienced when accelerating or decelerating, the driveshaft is inspected as the most probable cause.
 
i happened across this bit during research...

the certified transmission shop will test the mt clutch this way
wheels off the ground and parking brake set they will revv the engine in neutral and hold steady
then put it into 3rd gear and engage the clutch
the time it takes for the engine to stall will indicate how much the clutch is actually worn
 
Rock62 said:
Replacement of such parts is common practice.

This comes due to the price and labor from a machine shop. Very few mechanics have the skills or equipment to surface a flywheel.

The work is usually done on a large grinder. Its not really an operation for a lathe.

Disc brake rotors have the same situation.


Remember, the longer you milk the worn out clutch the greater chance of severe damage to the flywheel. It may already be too late for a resurface. Prepare yourself for a significant repair invoice.
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When I worked in the Ingersoll rand machine room, I used one of their blanchard grinders to do a flywheel on a 84 Toyota pickup 4wd manual.
 
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there is no difficulty getting into gear
there is no difficulty getting out of gear, even in reverse
there is no slipping out of gear
there is no slipping RPMs going up whilst steadily climbing a large hill in the top 5th gear
there is no grinding of gears when changing gears, when it does happen on occasion (not frequently!) it is accounted to user error :mad:
 
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tacojoel said:
When I worked in the Ingersoll rand machine room, I used one of their blanchard grinders to do a flywheel on a 84 Toyota pickup 4wd manual.
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Ahhhhh...... a little "government" work.

A Blanchard is a fairly large grinder. I worked for Gardner-Denver once upon a lifetime ago. We had some big grinders to surface the discharge plate of the screw compressors.

I remember doing competitive testing on a few IR compressors.
 
so i finally found a suitable transmission place to drop off early Monday for some test driving and whatnots to find the issue
there was no mention of a 'diagnostic fee' which i have every right to balk at from prior multi-experiences with that BS scheme
more happy trails to all!
 
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